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jyoshida

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Comments for: "4 reasons for 3-D TV, 7 more for why it's a long shot"
Posted: Oct 29, 2009 8:42 AM
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jyoshida

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Re: Comments for: "4 reasons for 3-D TV, 7 more for why it's a long shot"
Posted: Oct 29, 2009 8:42 AM   in response to: jyoshida in response to: jyoshida
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For those of us who live outside Japan, 3-D TV sounds like a pure wishiful thinking on the part of Japanese CE vendors. But once I am back in Japan, I realize how seriously they are betting their future on this. Are you or your company also thinking about making seroius money on 3-D?
Economy Expert

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Re: Comments for: "4 reasons for 3-D TV, 7 more for why it's a long shot"
Posted: Oct 29, 2009 1:03 PM   in response to: jyoshida in response to: jyoshida
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Since Hollywood is doing 3-D movies, 3-D is going to be mainstream. The seven factors facing 3-D seems to presume that it is all or nothing with 3-D. 3-D will be adopted where it works best, and will not be adopted in situations where it is not the best solution. Developers need to keep in mind their particular market, not the technology itself. The technology is a means, not the end. The downturn in the economy has been the main factor influencing decreased purchases of technology. But whether the economy ever recovers to pre-Obama levels or not, people will have their entertainment. Look at history. While some people are starving others attend the theatre. Like Abe Lincoln when he met John Boothe.
deyyoung

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Re: Comments for: "4 reasons for 3-D TV, 7 more for why it's a long shot"
Posted: Oct 29, 2009 1:36 PM   in response to: jyoshida in response to: jyoshida
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"what about those cockamamie glasses?"
Exactly. Until you don't have to wear a set of silly glasses, 3D will be destined for the laserdisc bin.
Movie studios/theaters want this to distinct themselves from the home theater market, but the home theater market needs to wait and see what happens to 3D in the theaters before jumping on this bandwagon. If the typical moviegoer balks at wearing stupid glasses in a theater, the home theater viewer sure isn't going to go for it, either.
dirk.bruere

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Re: Comments for: "4 reasons for 3-D TV, 7 more for why it's a long shot"
Posted: Oct 29, 2009 2:32 PM   in response to: jyoshida in response to: jyoshida
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There are two places where 3D is really a plus.
The first is on a PC screen when gaming.
The second is big screen cinema as a novelty factor.
As for ordinary TVs - I don't think so.
ghova

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Re: Comments for: "4 reasons for 3-D TV, 7 more for why it's a long shot"
Posted: Oct 29, 2009 8:22 PM   in response to: jyoshida in response to: jyoshida
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Having lived through the 3D craze of the 50's, I'm underwhelmed by the idea of 3D TV. Stereoscopic (but not holographic) 3D has the fundamental limitation that the view is geometrically correct ("orthoscopic") from only one point in space. At any position off axis, the picture exhibits Conical Distortion, so called because a cone filmed vertex-on seems to point directly at you, no matter what your position.

Even more peculiar, depth of objects depends on viewing distance. The film is made with a particular "sweet spot" in the theatre in mind. If you are viewing from this position, everything looks fine, but if you are closer, objects seem too thin, and too thick from beyond this distance.

A few years ago I attended a showing of some 3D films at a Baltimore art house. It included a Three Stooges cartoon with quite amusing effects, like a mad doctor lunging at the audience with a hypodermic needle which hung over the audience and caused everyone to duck.

Less amusing, was, amazingly, a 3D version of Alfred Hitchcock's "Rear Window". http://This was filmed at the beginning of the craze, which had subsided by the time the film was ready for distribution.

I was familiar with the above issues from work on scientific displays, so I moved around the theatre during the film to observe their effects. When I tried sitting behind the sweet spot, but nowhere near the most distant seats, the depth distortion was all too evident: Grace Kelly had thickened noticably from front to back. I found the effect quite disturbing; in fact it made my skin crawl. In my opinion, even without these optical difficulties, 3D did nothing to enhance the film's dramatic qualities.

I expect that 3D is a powerful effect in computer games where none of the geometric distortions apply, but if an attempt is made to apply it to the usual film fare, I expect it to fail just as it did 50 years ago.
zhgreader

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Re: Comments for: "4 reasons for 3-D TV, 7 more for why it's a long shot"
Posted: Oct 29, 2009 10:56 PM   in response to: jyoshida in response to: jyoshida
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I don't know if the 3D display can survive Jpan's companies, I 'm in the believe that this is still a developing technology.
3D has gone a long way scence last middle of century. hot a while, cold a while. Recently underhelp of digital processing tech, it goes up again,
Training a photographer at the site is not a problem, a month' train enough, it's easier than train an engineer.
System is a problem, red and blue glasses is still adopted at home watch. if you move or do other thing when watch program you will loss 3D effect.
Of cause Good Sound system can compensate its fault. this increase edit and shoot difficultness.
the program can't be long, otherwise audient will uncomfortable.
if you wear such glasses for a ling time, can it be harm your eye, say, colorblindness?
patrick38

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Re: Comments for: "4 reasons for 3-D TV, 7 more for why it's a long shot"
Posted: Oct 31, 2009 3:37 AM   in response to: jyoshida in response to: jyoshida
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I really have the impression that CE makers are trying to invent something to justify new sale and growth. From a pure consumer point of view I am not ready to spend money an this 3D story because I personally believe that the user experience is really far from something every body could enjoy.
As a lot of people I wear glasses,don't forget our population in western countries is getting older..., and adding an aditionnal layer in front of my eyes is just not convinient. I could understand some interrest in theaters or for PC's where you are in situation for a specific thing and then could enjoy a 3D experience but for daily life in front of the TV I have a lot of doubts.
RobDinsmore

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Re: Comments for: "4 reasons for 3-D TV, 7 more for why it's a long shot"
Posted: Nov 1, 2009 10:35 AM   in response to: jyoshida in response to: jyoshida
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Why can't subtitles be on an all black box that is anchored somewhere? I.e. similar to how TVs do closed captioning now. If it is required to have subtitles then content designers should be required to allow for this by keeping a small area of the screen suitable for subtitles.
SteveS789

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Re: Comments for: "4 reasons for 3-D TV, 7 more for why it's a long shot"
Posted: Nov 2, 2009 1:55 PM   in response to: jyoshida in response to: jyoshida
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Those 3D glasses hurt my eyes. I am not going to ruin my vision just to watch a movie.

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