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        <title>Re: Comments for: &quot;Opinion: Computer overload threatens auto safety&quot;</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[The problem with car makers is that they don't listen. Som far-east people always think they are the wisest creatures, but they lack common sense and logic. Full stop.<br />...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:06:24 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 9, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>tom kawala</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Comments for: &quot;Opinion: Computer overload threatens auto safety&quot;</title>
        <link>http://www.techonline.com/tigforums/thread.jspa?messageID=21949&amp;tstart=0#21949</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Let's be serious. While using electronics and software has its challenges (one of them is a lack of graceful degradation vs. mechanical parts wearing out), the issues with the pedals are mechanical. If the pedal is stuck at the bottom, also a carburator...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:05:59 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 9, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eric Verhulst</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Comments for: &quot;Opinion: Computer overload threatens auto safety&quot;</title>
        <link>http://www.techonline.com/tigforums/thread.jspa?messageID=21946&amp;tstart=0#21946</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[As someone who's worked on engine control software for the past 10 years, I have the following comments:<br />...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:27:13 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 9, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>JDT</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Comments for: &quot;Opinion: Computer overload threatens auto safety&quot;</title>
        <link>http://www.techonline.com/tigforums/thread.jspa?messageID=21931&amp;tstart=0#21931</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Do I understand correctly that the author is arguing for mechanical-only control systems in response to the Toyota problems?  The throttle problems were caused by mechanical failure! <br />...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:02:04 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 9, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>willflanery</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Comments for: &quot;CES: 'Connected' Ford redefines 'the driving experience'	&quot;</title>
        <link>http://www.techonline.com/tigforums/thread.jspa?messageID=21924&amp;tstart=0#21924</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Maybe I won't have to use my cell phone to tag songs anymore.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 09:52:14 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 9, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Tim78</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Comments for: &quot;Car bodywork could be used to power future cars&quot;</title>
        <link>http://www.techonline.com/tigforums/thread.jspa?messageID=21923&amp;tstart=0#21923</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[This sounds like safety be damned, we can use this composite anywhere.  What if you stress the panel or pierce it.  Oh well just use it to hold the fuel!]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 09:49:10 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 9, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Luthermc</jf:author>
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        <title>Comments for: &quot;Car bodywork could be used to power future cars&quot;</title>
        <link>http://www.techonline.com/tigforums/thread.jspa?messageID=21922&amp;tstart=0#21922</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Read the article here: <a href="http://www.automotivedesignline.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=222700311">Car bodywork could be used to power future cars</a>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 09:49:09 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 9, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Luthermc</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Comments for: &quot;Opinion: Computer overload threatens auto safety&quot;</title>
        <link>http://www.techonline.com/tigforums/thread.jspa?messageID=21921&amp;tstart=0#21921</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Definitely an interesting discussion!  ms48083 has probably the best point, human error is always going to be a problem.  Hurtling along at 70 miles an hour is a dangerous situation that needs to be made safe.  Better driver training could be a start,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 09:35:09 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <title>Re: Comments for: &quot;Opinion: Computer overload threatens auto safety&quot;</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[The problem is that people forget that Murphy lives. Problems will happen in the best design. There needs to be a simple override system to protect people.<br />...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 09:15:52 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 9, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>djhk</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Comments for: &quot;Opinion: Computer overload threatens auto safety&quot;</title>
        <link>http://www.techonline.com/tigforums/thread.jspa?messageID=21919&amp;tstart=0#21919</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[The Toyota problem is somewhat old hat. We've had similar, albeit with less complicated systems. Not that I don't agree... I've had more than a few scary episodes with DBW systems on development cars: "traction control," electronic trannys, etc. that...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 09:13:52 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 9, 2010</jf:date>
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